pmolly at megacom.com.au
Sat Jan 14 19:44:54 UTC 2012
6.30 AM Sunday Morning
About to drive 200 Ks and 200 Ks to look at a Mk 1GT
with Tim .
You guys have kept me entertained with all this for the last 3 days
My wife keeps asking
""what the laughing about"
Hard to explain to explain to her
Please keep up the "Good Work"
----- Original Message -----
From: "winkster" <winkelmannster at gmail.com>
To: <blitz at teamblitz.com>; <cortina-list at lotus-cortina.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Cortina-list] Perana
> *Hmmm, well Peter, it looks like it's your throttles for a response, eh?*
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Team Blitz <blitz at teamblitz.com> wrote:
>> Pete, not sure why you care so much. But fact is, you haven't presented
>> anything new at the bar.
>> Nor is citation of a "fan" site documentation of anything. If it's on the
>> web, it's true? Well then, I'm Emperor of California. ;D
>> Fact is:
>> **Sales by a Ford dealer do NOT connote the item is a Ford product.
>> Saleens, pre-67 Shelbys, AC Cobras, Kenny Browns, ShoGuns, ASC Capri II
>> R/S, Chastain Shadow Capri II, Mako Capris, Urens, Allards, Broadspeeds,
>> etc etc. NONE of them were actual Ford models. Neither was a Perana.
>> **Warranty work: Who does the WORK proves nothing. Who PAYS the dealer
>> warranty work proves who is the warranting party. Ford dealers service
>> perform warranty work for all sorts of commerical cut-away vehicles and
>> Saleens and Shelbys, etc etc. These reimbursements are made from the
>> motorhome manufacturer, Saleen, and Shelby TO the dealer. Certainly parts
>> not subjected to mods or stress from alterations would be ample material
>> for negotiation between a TUNER manufacturer and For Motor Company (such
>> as a warranty job or recall on something like windshield glass or tail
>> lamp brightness.)
>> **You claim more for the Perana than the Perana Club in ZA. They don't
>> claim it is a Ford model. They know better.
>> **It has a BG Perana VIN plate and equipment plate. The extant Ford plate
>> shows the DONOR engine "P" which is Ford nomenclature for a Cologne
>> V-motor. Thus showing the shells were configured using normal production
>> specs and parts.
>> **You keep using the word "sanction", as in "sanctioned by Ford". If you
>> mean by that that Ford sold BG Motors Capris, yep, they sure did. They
>> sanctioned the sale of Capris to BG, who was a Ford dealer himself. If
>> mean BG obtained Ford engineering assistance, yep, sure he did. I do that
>> too, and frequently call Ford on projects. Doesn't mean they sanction a
>> frigging thing I'm doing either. It means I asked for help, and sometimes
>> they give it. A dealer would likely get even more help buying 500-off
>> shells from the ZA CKD assembly plant. I'll wager Saleen, Shelby, Mako,
>> Ralph Broad, etc etc got a lot of tech advice too. Big deal.
>> **There are NO BG Perana p/n's in the ZA Ford parts fiche. I have them,
>> all of Ford's fiche worldwide, for this period of time. A comprehensive
>> collection of every month's changes, every nuance of production of the
>> Capri for every market and every level of trim and optional equipment.
>> Nothing, zero, zip, nada about BG or the Perana.
>> **There no BG Perana ads, brochures, or marketing materials which state,
>> imply, connote, or assert that it is a Ford model. Ford's corporate
>> trademarks and imprimatur do not appear in any such ads or materials.
>> Nothing in Ford's corporate histories. Nothing in Walton, Robson,
>> Morgan-Jones, or any of the other excellent histories of the Capri model
>> about it being an official Ford product either.
>> **As said, aside from being accurate about history, I don't care one way
>> or the other. But if you're going to tell me a hog is a horse, or an
>> is a orange, then I'm going to want to correct the record with the best
>> info I have - just so I know the difference. That's all I'm endeavoring
>> with this discussion. I welcome new facts. But not blabber from 40
>> year-old memories of what some guy told another guy, and that's
>> in the face of a mountain of evidence that he's mistake (or WRONG).
>> Team Blitz, 2-1/2 million Capri parts in 7 warehouses. New, Used,
>> Restoration, & Racing parts technology for your 1970-78 European-built
>> Capri. http://www.teamblitz.com
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