[Cortina-list] Tell me why I shouldn't

Mister Lou enfohead at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 12 18:02:07 UTC 2012


Peter is the new Norm? ;)

I can proudly say that my genetic ancestors stole spaghetti technology from China and improved upon it, eventually cornering the global market on spaghetti manufacturing. 

Off to go buy American made gun powder. 

lou weinert 
415.601.6744
www.misterlou.com

On Jan 11, 2012, at 9:50 PM, Peter Pentz <peter.pentz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tim,
> Hate to ask your generational background, and hate to admit mine ......
> It's an ongoing 30+ War understand.......
> I refuse absolutely to "enjoy" "modern" Eastern technology.
> Please show me a single Eastern (Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc.) product that isn't a cheap mass produced imitation of an original European or American concept. 
> We (Europeans and Americans) are such technological idiots !  We have great ideas, concepts and designs, but we give it away to every "imitator on earth" to turn our ideas into production viable concepts. When last did you hear of an original design concept originating from the Asiatic Belt - Wankel engine - sorry German, 4 valve per cylinder - French (1911), VANOS - I believe German ......... It goes on and on. The latest Hyundai design Sonata (award winning) - designed in CA !
> Are we idiots, or just consumer driven Zombies ........... Wake UP !
> Global design - bah humbug - we're being ripped off buddy ..........
> I'm old enough to say in my lifetime, not only will I not drive an Eastern car, but I'll not embrace their "design  excellence" BS - bear in mind my job is all about bleeding edge software design, and I know where those designs originate, and it's not from the land of the slanting eyes.
> Don't get me wrong here - there's a simple practicality involved here - my costs per hour are stratospherical, and justifiable, but I have to sell the cooky cutter BS these unimaginative (bless their hard working hearts) are programming, to my Gobsmacked clients.  
> Buy their BS cars, use their cheep S1it engines in my classic Ford - I don't think so !!
> 
> Just my opinion understand !
> 
> Peter P
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jan 11, 2012, at 10:55 PM, "Tim Craig" <Tim.Craig at invetech.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> I don't think it matters what engine, it's what suits the owner best.
>> It not as if it's going in a Proton Cortina, sorry Lotus Cortina.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cortina-list-bounces at lotus-cortina.com
>> [mailto:cortina-list-bounces at lotus-cortina.com] On Behalf Of Peter Pentz
>> Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2012 2:39 PM
>> To: cortina-list at lotus-cortina.com
>> Subject: Re: [Cortina-list] Tell me why I shouldn't
>> 
>> Despite our new found Global friendliness ......
>> Like it or not, Mazda is a Japanese product that has about as much
>> genetic connection to Ford, as my Calculator has to a Slide Rule -
>> .......   none !
>> So what are we saying here guys - now that Lotus (new Lotus remember)
>> now uses Toyota (Yuk !) engines, we're OK fitting a 60's Elite with a
>> Toyota engine ?
>> Get real guys, a Mazda is a Bloody (Japanese) Mazda, and not a Ford -
>> English or American !   
>> Get over it !  Just like fitting a damn Chevy small block in a Mustang.
>> OMG - Henry will turn in his grave.
>> Fit a Zetech or Duratech and drop Maaaaaaazda out of the conversation
>> Please !!!!
>> 
>> BTW - remember the Cossie Turbo's hitting the 500+ HP stratosphere in
>> the 70's ? -  what do you think the Duratech / Zetech engines are based
>> on ......
>> Peter P
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jan 11, 2012, at 11:02 AM, John Miller <jem at milleredp.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/10/2012 5:58 PM, Peter Pentz wrote:
>>>> Durateck or Pinto ! Come now  no Mazda polutents !
>>> 
>>> Ah, but Ford owned Mazda then, indeed the Escort, Probe, etc. of the
>> day
>>> were Mazda designs not to mention the various Mazda manufactured
>> products sold as Fords and, more recently, vice-versa.
>>> 
>>> The engine in question was used in quite a few Escort GTs, the
>> Ford-labeled cam cover will fit the '94-97 Mazda BP, I'm not sure if
>> it'll fit the '99-00.
>>> 
>>> My turbo-Miata friend advises finding a '99-00 donor car, as those
>> years get a much better head than the earlier motors, but after that
>> they got variable cam timing and etc. which I don't want to deal with.
>>> 
>>>> A Pinto 2L will give anything from 160 to 240 ponies - nice ! And
>>>> it's "period correct".
>>> 
>>> "Period correct" might also be defined as "costs real money to add EFI
>> and a 5-speed".
>>> 
>>> Part of the attraction of the MX-5 powertrain is that it looks
>> completely usable from crank damper to tailshaft, including intake,
>> clutch actuation, maybe even exhaust.
>>> 
>>> The Miata transmisions are much easier to find here than a Type 9, and
>> significantly more compact than a T-5 so there's even the possibility of
>> avoiding tunnel surgery.
>>> 
>>> John.
>>> 
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